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Every thought and every defining conception which aims to encompass and grasp the divine nature is only forming an idol of God... - Gregory of Nyssa, from The Life of Moses

These men without motive who stay in their rooms because there seems to be no reason for doing anything else. -Colin Wilson, in The Outsider
God does not become present to human consciousness the way that an object in the concrete world is said to be present ... Speaking of God's presence is at bottom another strategy for saying the unsayable -and why many mystics have wrestled with the paradox that God is found in absence and negation more than in presence. - Bernard McGinn (emphasis mine)

[God] made darkness his secret place. -Psalm 18:11 KJV
The secret things belong unto the LORD our God but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever. -Deuteronomy 29:29 KJV
Kick that man habit, man. -Brion Gysin
They could not define Allah, who was beyond human definition, nor could they precisely interpret messengership, a unique relationship of deity and man. Before very long, Sufis were able to freely say such things as: "I am an idol worshipper; for I understand what idol worship means, and the idolater does not." -Idries Shah in The Sufis
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We all live in the world as we imagine it, as we create it. And so, instead of enjoying its benefits, we are the victims of its defects. -Andrei Tarkovsky, from Sculpting in Time
Now in the thirty-first year of my dark pilgrimage on this earth and knowing less than I ever knew before, having learned only to recognize merde when I see it, having inherited no more from my father than a good nose for merde, for every species of shit that flies ...on this my thirtieth birthday, I know nothing and there is nothing to do but fall prey to desire. -from Walker Percy's The Moviegoer

I hesitated for a long time before replying. "I don't know," I said at last. "All I know is that I'm the same." -from Michel Houellebecq's Platform
He doesn't like feeling that futility gets the last word in the universe; his human nature would like to find something it can answer to with complete assent. But his honesty prevents his accepting a solution that he cannot reason about. His next question is naturally: Supposing a solution does exist somewhere, undreamed of by me, inconceivable to me, can I yet hope that it might one day force itself upon me without my committing myself to a preliminary gesture of faith which (in point of fact) I cannot make?

This experience of terror on the edge of nothingness was not an unfamiliar experience to many of the saints, Christian and otherwise. -Colin Wilson, in The Outsider
Most men will not swim before they are able to ... Naturally the won't swim! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown. -from Hermann Hesse's Steppenwolf

Prepare to meet your God. ...Then take hold of ink, pen, and tablet. Realize that you are about to serve your God in joy. Begin to combine letters, a few or many, permuting and revolving them rapidly until your mind warms up. Delight in how they move and in what you generate by revolving them. When you feel within that your mind is very, very warm from combining the letters, and that through the combinations you understand new things that you have not attained by human tradition nor discovered on your own through mental reflection, then you are ready to receive the abundant flow... -unnamed Kabbalist, from The Essential Kabbalah

All "paths of liberation" (brain-freeing schools) know that we cannot remain in the abyss of the nameless forevr, unless we choose to become hermits. (Very few do.) Once we have returned from a school of brain-change to the ordinary world, we again must see and think in masks, or we will not have the ability to communicate and deal with others. -Robert Anton Wilson in Cosmic Trigger: My Life After Death
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"When you feel within that your mind is very, very warm from combining the letters, and that through the combinations you understand new things that you have not attained by human tradition nor discovered on your own through mental reflection, then you are ready to receive the abundant flow..."
(LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THIS ENTIRE POST)
Have you tried it yet? Maybe it works better with the Kabbalist's Hebrew, but English has gotten me feeling "very warm" (though I wouldn't say "very, very").
I'm glad you enjoyed the post. Bleeders thinks it is too long and needs more structure, but Sinners and I are quite happy with it. It was our first attempt at consciously using words and images for magic. We're trying to convince Bleeders to let us use the blog as magic more often. He scoffs at our mysticism. Sinners said, "he just doesn't like the words we use. If we said 'psychological tricks for bypassing the conscious mind' or something like that he might be on board." So we tried it. But he knew we were just trying to talk about magic. Little does he know, he's a magical creation of sSs. Now he'll read this and go:
irk boink grock "What?"
-NAMERS
I like the Gregory of Nyssa quote the most (boringly this is probably just because I recognize it), but many of them were illuminating!
Once again you've brought Barth's Epistle to the Romans to my mind. I flip through my heavily underlined copy and find things such as:
"The Gospel is not a truth among other truths. Rather, it sets a question-mark against all truths" (35).
"The Night, too, has its wisdom" (49).
"Disturbance of soul, restless murmuring, cavil, and protest: such may be sign-posts to the peace of God which passeth all understanding" (67).
Anyway, sorry to intrude those upon your impressive cavalcade of quotes.
Bleeders knows how to reach Jon Coutts, but Sinners and Namers are intriguing as well.
I don't know what 'cavil' means, but I like that quote. I've used up all my good quotes now, and Sinners isn't a big reader. Bleeders, well -I don't even know what he reads. Bleeders doesn't believe in God, but I think he still believes in the word God, so he reads those kinds of things probably.
google says,
cavil: "to raise trivial and frivolous objection." Look what I learned today!
Tangential thought: I learned today that when Albert Speer was in Spandau serving his time, he studied Karl Barth in some depth, especially his 14-colume Church Dogmatics.
Why-oh-why must it be FOURTEEN volumes!?! Seriously, why? Oh well. I can start with 'Romans.'
also, Cavalcade is a very good word.
-NAMERS
irck boink grock "give me a break."
-BLEEDERS
Break granted. What do you want it for?
-NAMERS
For tying your feet to the ground so you don't float off into nonsense land.
I like poetry, and even appreciate intuition, but one's relationship with it has got to be grounded in something more than "the abundant flow" -whatever that's supposed to be.
-BLEEDERS
I kinda agree with BLEEDERS.
It's like what Burroughs said, about how it's not good to lose yourself until you've found yourself already. Something like that. I wish I could remember his exact words.
Like, it's not good to lose your mind until you are connected in a positive way to what's out there beyond what the words 'your mind' signify. So keep thinking critically and don't let every breath from the unconscious blow you into "nonsense land."
-SINNERS
That's not what I'm saying, Sinners.
I'm saying, DON'T LOSE YOUR MIND. At all.
-BLEEDERS
Chesterton says it is safest and best to play once you have an idea where the sidelines are. Bleeders remembers him.
Great quote Jon.
"the centre of the universe is everywhere and its circumference is nowhere." -Giordano Bruno
Of course, that doesn't help much at all.
-NAMERS
No, NAMERS, it doesn't help much -because we're talking about losing one's mind, not losing the universe (which, unless you're a sollipsist, is a signifcant difference). And that Bruno quote seems just about meaningless anyways.
Whereas the GK Chesterton quote actually gives you something to hang onto that relates to this strange little conversation.
is it just me, or is this getting rather dull? We'll start talking about self and surrendering the self, and consciousness, and ...you'll find me snoozing in the corner.
-BLEEDERS
I like this post too.
Predictably the Hesse and Tarkovsky quotes. Though I think they are all worth kicking around.
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